• Fourth Journey Of Satguru Nanak Sahib & Bhai Mardana Ji
  • Various Illahi Noor
  • Biodata
  • Guru Nanak & Martin Luther
  • Injustice Done to Sikh & Guru History
  • Who was Sunder?
  • Photos
  • Niki-Kiri-Mahkal Rakhey
  • Misunderstanings To The Divided Panth
  • The Status Of Guru Nanak
  • Backward Swimming
  • Sacrifices of Seniors
  • The Four Pauses
  • Milk-Drinking
  • Routes of Satguru
  • Pawan Guru
  • Charnamrit
  • Writer of Gost of Mecca-Madina
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in village Baba
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib at Messologhi(Greece)
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib is known as Hassan Baba
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Arta(Greece).
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Kastoria
  • Writers Of Different Janamsakhies.
  • New For New-Generations and Their Alternatives
  • Contact
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib reached Istanbul(Europe)
  • Humayun At Sri Kartarpur Sahib in June, 1540
  • Kabir Sahib at Sultan Pur Lodhi
  • Hazuri Sangat In Burma
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Sumatra, Indonesia
  • Hukanama Sahib from Chiang Mai.Thailand
  • European Surgeon who Attended Satguru Gobind Singh in 1708
  • Short Confinement of Satguru Hargobind Sahib at Gwalior
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Egypt
  • Media Corner
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Bamunanika(Uganda)
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Gulu District
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib In Tabora, Tanzania
  • Makindu Sahib, Sri Hargobindpura of East Africa
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib And Hargobind Sahib in Malindi
  • Satguru Hargobind Sahib in Timau (Kenya)
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib and Satguru Hargobind Sahib in Lamu (Kenya)
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Thika(Kenya).
  • FiveVillages Named Baba"in Satguru's Last Udasi,1518-21
  • Sacrifices Made by Our Seniors in East-Africa
  • First Singh Sabha Gurdwara Sahib of Kenya,1898
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Dar-es-Slaam,1519.
  • Various Transport Used by Satgurus in 4th Udasi
  • French Surgeon,Francis Bernier, Gives The Contemprary Proofs about Almighty Satgurus
  • Satguru Ram Das Settled A Christian Dyer,1578.
  • Jami on Satguru Nanak Sahib,1492
  • Ilahi Noor Mosques in Greece
  • Who is Sujan Rai Bhandari ?
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Mecca, Madina, 1519.
  • The Village Hassan Baba in Greece
  • What I Could Not, Almighty God Did for Me
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Portugal & Spain, 1520.
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib Meeting King Afonso-I of Kongo, 1519.
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Tula Valley Of Mexico.
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Port-of-Spain(West Indies)
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in North Carolina U.S.A)
  • My Meeting With Dr. Ganda Singh is Pre-arranged by Almighty God
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib went to Greece, Rome, etc., According to "Forcible Entries" of Roman Empire,1609
  • Nanuk- Panthy in Brazil
  • First Reference of Nanuc in a Latin History Book, 1586.
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Montreal( Previously Mount Royal).
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Siberia With Arora Traders
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Siberia With Arora Traders
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Bergan Norway--Donnacona, 1545
  • Nirancari Nanuk in East-Brasil
  • The First Sikh Case Won At The Mughal Court, 1577.
  • First Sikh Preacher Of Siberia And Europe,Bhola Singha Padat
  • American Sikhs in Sixteenth Century
  • Research Calender
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in SouthTexas, U.S.A.
  • Press-Release
  • First Masand Of Africa, Dasa Lubana, F/O Makhan Shah Lubana
  • Loss To International History by Charles-V & John Sleiden-1555
  • Khalsa in Traders'S House, Canso (Nova Scotia) in 1757
  • The Discussion Between Bhai Gurdas Ji and Father Monserrate at Agra in 1581
  • Satguru Nanak Sahib in Asthrakhan ( Russia).
  • Sahibzada Tegh Bahadur Sahib in England, in September, 1643

Who was Sunder?

         There is Ramkali Sad in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji  on Pious page 923. In 1941 Bhai Lal Singh Sangrur raised a question that who was this person, named Sunder in the above said Gurbani. I wonder why this question did not catch the notice of Prof. Sahib Singh? Perhaps this happens because of two possible reasons. First,due to the partition of the country, he could not take the notice of the above noted question.Secondly.due to his personal sickness of Parkinson.Any how whatever may be the reason,his eyes left this question unanswered.He gave the logical answer to every Gurmat question whether it related to Sikh history or Guru History or to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.From the next generation in me, the answer of the afore said question is given according to Prof. Sahib Singh's own book on Gur-Itihas from Patshahi 2 to 9.The question printed on the page no. 274 of Martand written by Giani Lal Singh Sangrur is supposed to get special attention from us.Three of my seniors had helped me a lot.They are principal Satbir Singh and Principal Sahib Singh and Bhai Santokh Singh.  Sada-Itihas written by Satbir Singh  on the page191 has something common to say with Dr. Sahib Singh on page 84 of Gur-Itihas Patshahi 2to9.Both these  and some other historians have rightly menntioned in their history books that Bhai  Sunder was the son of Bhai Anand,that is Guru Amar Das's  great grand son.The Guru Granth Sahib Ji mentioned-----------Kahai Sunder Sunno Santoh----- Pious page 924 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But for your kind information the reality is something else and as follows.

       All the historians are unanimous that Sunder was born in Bikrmi Sammat 1660 corresponding to 1603. Sri Guru Granth Sahib was written in 1604.One year old person can not describe one's biography.Guru Amar Das wrote Anand Sahib comemorating the birth of Bhai Anand in Bikrmi Sammat 1611 correspondig to 1554.When Satguru Amar Das left for his heavenly abode in 1574,Satguru Ram Das was 40 years old,Satguru Arjan Sahib was 11 years old,Mohan ji was 39 years old,Mohri ji was37 years old.Either Satguru Ram Das could write it or Satguru Arjan Sahib could write Ramkali Sadd.Either of the brother or both joint could write it.This means Sunder is somebody else.

       The reality is this way.Satguru Amar Das has appointed 22 preachers(22Manjis). One of them was Allah Yaar Khan or Allah Shah. He was a horse-trader in Delhi. Actually he was a pathan of village Dalla in the district of Kaphurthla(reference Prof. Sahib Singh).He had his business in Lahore& Goindwal Sahib too.His son was Sayyed Sunder Shah.He was the same age as Bhai Anad was.He was a poet by nature.He was 20 years old like Bhai Anand when Guru Amar Das breathed his last.He wrote the Ramkali  sadd which was included In Aadi Granth by Guru Arjan Sahib Ji and lateron in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji by Guru Gobind Singh Ji in Damdama Sahib.By the grace of Almighty Satguru,Harpal Singh(Qusur) has been made able to answer the question raised by Giani Lal singh Sangrur.In his Martand he thought that Sunder might be a Rababi but Sunder was the son of Allah Yaar Khan alias Allah Yaar Shah and Bibi Bakhto.He was also the friend of Baba Bidhi Chand. (reference of  Kushti Da Dhruu Tara-Kartar written by Waryam Singh Sandhu page No. 27)
   
                                                                                                                                     

 

Bibliography:                                                
1.Sada-Itihas written by Principal Satbir Singh
2.Gur-Itihas written by Principal Sahib Singh
3.The Sikh Religion written by Max Arther Mcaulife
4.Kushti Da Dhruu Tara-Kartar, written by Waryam Singh Sandhu, published by Rustam Publication, Jullundur, 2007.

5.Gurmat Martand written by Lal Singh Sangrur
6.Gurprtap Suraj by Bhai Santokh Singh

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